Subject	some data >>
Posted by	ztunerz on June 23, 2006 at 12:29 AM
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In Reply To	How significant? posted by Spee on June 23, 2006 at 12:12 AM
Message	This is a simulated dyno test so take it with a pinch of salt. Right off the bat i agree with you that all the electric fans i have tried seem to have issues under extreme conditions. That being said on a stage III+++ we went from a 378 whp to 389 whp with the ONLY change being the electric fan. same tune, same starting water temp within 5 deg F, same day, same dyno etc etc. Most of the hp torque gains were from 3500 rpm up. So YES there is a hp benifit But unfortunately i have not yet found a e fan / Shroud combo that works well enough for me. If only there was a setup like that i'd be all for it but so far no luck. With A/C in Florida heat - FORGET IT PS - i have NOT tested Ash's setup so i have NO comments on his setup so please don't get on my case about that. i am just posting my experience with e-fans including Spal and Zirgo and different shrouds i designed. I have even tried a supposedly super high output Ford fan with no luck. Harry Formerly yellowzxtt " If it doesn't make it faster, i don't care " Please visit www.ztuner.com to GO FASTER
Follow Ups	Debating between sticking with the clutch fan or electric - TTFairladyZ 22:12:25 06/22/06 stick with the fan clutch (n/m) - Guapo 22:13:56 06/22/06 2nd (n/m) - aliaZ 22:33:30 06/22/06 Re: 2nd - ouikikazz 22:39:13 06/22/06 nobody has really perfected the electric fan setup yet - 93silverTT 22:42:06 06/22/06 I have not seen one post where someone had an issue - The Devils Z 23:07:48 06/22/06 well ... even ash noted that the car runs warmer - Guapo 23:15:56 06/22/06 Its just a trade-off. I agree, inferior if it can't keep a - Russell@Z1 23:32:12 06/22/06 Thats a lot of if's. Even the stock system tends to - Guapo 23:42:56 06/22/06 explain "inherent benefits" - Spee 23:46:54 06/22/06 Extra power and response, which are definitely significant - Russell@Z1 00:00:17 06/23/06 How significant? - Spee 00:12:05 06/23/06 some data >> - ztunerz 00:29:02 06/23/06 Ford fan..... - Woody75 (Denver) 10:13:27 06/23/06 Re: explain "inherent benefits" - Turbodog (CT) 18:20:16 06/23/06 Have you looked at OEM fan/shroud setups? My - AzHeat 00:51:30 06/23/06 what does that have to do with the Z32? (n/m) - Spee 01:02:01 06/23/06 You can use parts that are OEM on other cars on Z32 if - AzHeat 10:22:09 06/23/06 Does your GS400 make 600hp and vent into an inferno - CaliguyPurdue 10:50:26 06/23/06 Its a V8 300HP with full AC. People who are running - AzHeat 12:35:09 06/23/06 Don't waste your time. - Spongerider :) 15:31:39 06/23/06 ROFL, Yes, everyone who had problems with electric - AzHeat 18:05:41 06/23/06 Re: I have not seen one post where someone had an issue - Russell@Z1 23:20:30 06/22/06 "so my thoughts are worthless." - The Devils Z 00:07:48 - Spee 23:44:29 06/22/06 Bookmark this and give it time - SeedyROM 01:53:20 06/23/06 ditto (n/m) - The Devils Z 13:15:58 06/23/06 That didn't take long did it? Here you go>>> - SeedyROM 13:41:15 06/23/06 No argument here from me -- I actually agreed with your - The Devils Z 14:26:47 06/23/06 Just in case you missed this one - dogpile 07:52:06 06/23/06 maybe I just don't hear enough good reviews then - 93silverTT 07:59:44 06/23/06 Ash had problems with the testing of his electric water - The Devils Z 08:14:10 06/23/06 lol - Spee 09:35:18 06/23/06 So the fix for a subpar pump is a subpar fan? (n/m) - Kenny 09:36:46 06/23/06 My only point was that there was "to my knowledge" no issues - The Devils Z 10:40:07 06/23/06 So your point was "I don't know what I'm talking about." - Kenny 11:17:24 06/23/06 Reading comprehension owns you ... I was correcting - The Devils Z 11:43:25 06/23/06 what is this event in Connecticut you keep mentioning? - Spee 12:01:12 06/23/06 lol (n/m) - The Devils Z 12:18:04 06/23/06 Not to jump into this battle, but - TT XTZ 13:23:16 06/23/06 Regardless of what "stories" are circulating by the .. - The Devils Z 14:14:07 06/23/06 The only "stories" that aren't adding up are yours and Ash's (n/m) - Kenny 14:52:21 06/23/06 Re: Regardless of what "stories" are circulating by the .. - Guapo 14:54:22 06/23/06 dude, The Connecticut thing was hilarious... - Spee 15:38:18 06/23/06 ZCONN ... it's intentional ... (n/m) - The Devils Z 17:18:06 06/23/06 please tell me why. - Spee 18:21:03 06/23/06 I fat fingered it the first few times .. after the first few - The Devils Z 19:58:05 06/23/06 heh, nice try. Fat fingered would be ZCONB or ZCOMN. - Spee 21:26:56 06/23/06 Yourn rightn onn then "fatn fingern" terminologyn" ... - The Devils Z 21:48:26 06/23/06 Right, Ash himself said he had cooling issues. (n/m) - Kenny 13:44:57 06/23/06 Websters: cooling issues does not 100% mean fan issues - The Devils Z 14:15:42 06/23/06 Uh, there are no "stories circulating." - Kenny 14:50:18 06/23/06 This is 100% true (n/m) - The Devils Z 15:12:19 06/23/06 hmm ... - Guapo 11:37:49 06/23/06 The higher rated fan went on in TX .. the electric - The Devils Z 11:56:06 06/23/06 That's not what Ash told me at ZCon. - Guapo 12:05:35 06/23/06 I was in the car ..we didn't run hot --or maybe my - The Devils Z 12:16:21 06/23/06 I wasn't in the car. I'm only going by what Ash told me. - Guapo 12:25:38 06/23/06 To summarize I am saying this - which are my known - The Devils Z 13:03:08 06/23/06 Then I don't know why on Monday night he told me he had - Guapo 13:22:17 06/23/06 There are no stories - I know that the fan was put on - The Devils Z 13:58:01 06/23/06 Hey don't get defensive on me. I'm just going by what - Guapo 14:45:23 06/23/06 Guapo - I have no issues with you so chill out ... - The Devils Z 15:11:19 06/23/06 cool as a cucumber 8-) (n/m) - Guapo 15:12:40 06/23/06 lol - Spee 11:55:22 06/23/06 I wouldn't consider DaytonaZ's results "good" - aliaZ 08:16:24 06/23/06 He's also running the 4k fan which was for fmic users. (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 10:08:23 06/23/06 Why are you not running Ash's fan? (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 09:20:08 06/23/06 wondering that myself... (n/m) - myzislow 10:51:44 06/23/06 if you are referring to me --- I was getting some work - The Devils Z 13:13:23 06/23/06 From the posts I've read - Black95 22:49:31 06/22/06 Stick with the stock clutch and fan. - Spee 23:41:54 06/22/06 Thats why I was trying to get a feel for everybodys opinions - TTFairladyZ 23:53:18 06/22/06 cool. good call. (n/m) - Spee 23:59:50 06/22/06 electric always did it for me.... but what do I know? (n/m) - chris@boostpro.net 23:46:27 06/22/06 don't ask questions you don't want to hear the answers to. (n/m) - Spee 23:58:17 06/22/06 not much - aliaZ 23:59:31 06/22/06 you would be suprised.... (n/m) - Initial Z 00:48:19 06/23/06 No, it gets very warm and humid in the summer... - myzislow 10:58:03 06/23/06 and thah mowsquitow is thah state berd, donchano? (n/m) - Guapo 11:11:09 06/23/06 oh ya you betcha donchaknow - myzislow 11:21:05 06/23/06 lmao (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 13:31:41 06/23/06 Very little. (n/m) - Kenny 00:17:12 06/23/06 Speak for yourself. We have had 110+ degree weather in AZ (n/m) - AzHeat 00:41:26 06/23/06 Stock clutch and fan have the best cooling capacity. - Kenny 00:18:00 06/23/06 Is it not true that at highway speeds, aka 45 and above - upcominZ_(NOLA) 00:21:01 06/23/06 That's an oversimplification. - Kenny 00:44:11 06/23/06 I thought you need 600HP to overheat LOL! (n/m) - AzHeat 18:08:00 06/23/06 It becomes a bigger problem with that much power... - Kenny 22:49:38 06/23/06 False. - ENVYMYZ 13:35:20 06/23/06 I would go with electric fan if your motor has all the - Z-Roc@Houston 00:20:54 06/23/06 You should put an exhaust pipe in your car and use it - upcominZ_(NOLA) 00:24:41 06/23/06 cool air coming out of your exahsut? ROFL (n/m) - Spee 00:30:38 06/23/06 lol? - aliaZ 00:36:42 06/23/06 lol (n/m) - Kenny 00:49:29 06/23/06 LMFAO- cool air out of the exaust? LOL LOL LOL (n/m) - Jay(So Cal) 00:53:25 06/23/06 ur z looks very interesting, id like to see more pics? (n/m) - dirtyjerZ 01:25:38 06/23/06 My exhaust is hot. Is that a problem? (n/m) - EricTTZ 01:26:03 06/23/06 As long as its under room temp, your good. (n/m) - SnowManZ 05:34:08 06/23/06 Electric fan is fine when you run it with engine shut off. (n/m) - AzHeat 18:06:42 06/23/06 nice school bus tail lights (n/m) - spyhunterTT(nj) 06:42:16 06/23/06 i will not go against all this experience, but do test the - davidztt 00:41:21 06/23/06 Going back to fan clutch after years of being pro-electric - SeedyROM 01:51:46 06/23/06 I had Ash's electric fan setup and it didn't do too good - samztt 05:15:41 06/23/06 Thanks for the report. I wondered how it would - AzHeat 10:24:30 06/23/06 Stay stock. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 08:13:35 06/23/06 I went back to stock after 3 days of the electric (n/m) - dvlhntr 08:36:03 06/23/06 I'm very happy with mine, agreed though must have supporting - Turbodog (CT) 18:07:11 06/23/06 whats strange is that its working with some setups and - The Devils Z 19:59:56 06/23/06
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